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"OLR Update Fails"
04-30-02, 20:56z 

I've run the new OLR installer twice since receiving it early this morning. On both occasions, it's failed to overwrite the previous exe file, and left me with 3.0.3.5 beta 2. As Mike directed, I put it into the same folder as the previous installation - this is where it has put the install.log file, a copy of which I've sent to Mike.

Can I somehow extract the exe and manually place it in the appropriate folder?

If I can't get the installation to work, is my present version going to time out at midnight tonight (only two hours away)?

Help, I've become dependant on the OLR already.

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  Subject      Author      Message Date     ID   
  RE: OLR Update Fails Ben Chiu[Admin] 04-30-02 1
   RE: OLR Update Fails AlanParkinson[Guest] 05-01-02 3
        RE: OLR Update Fails Ben Chiu[Admin] 05-01-02 4
  RE: OLR Update Fails vgbaron[Sysop] 05-01-02 2
   RE: OLR Update Fails AlanParkinson[Guest] 05-01-02 5
   RE: OLR Update Fails AlanParkinson[Guest] 05-01-02 6
        RE: OLR Update Fails Ben Chiu[Admin] 05-01-02 7
             RE: OLR Update Fails vgbaron[Sysop] 05-01-02 9
             RE: OLR Update Fails AlanParkinson[Guest] 05-02-02 11
                  RE: OLR Update Fails Ben Chiu[Admin] 05-02-02 12
             RE: OLR Update Fails Guido_Ostkamp[Lead] 05-04-02 14
                  RE: OLR Update Fails Ben Chiu[Admin] 05-04-02 15
  RE: OLR Update Fails PaulCroft[Crew] 05-01-02 8
   RE: OLR Update Fails Ben Chiu[Admin] 05-01-02 10
   RE: OLR Update Fails AlanParkinson[Guest] 05-02-02 13

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1. "RE: OLR Update Fails"
04-30-02, 21:20z 

Hi Alan:

It it not installing? Which folder are you trying to install into?

Perhaps your desktop shortcut is not being replaced. What happens if you use the menu item Start:Program Files:FlightAdventures:VPCOLR?


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3. "RE: OLR Update Fails"
05-01-02, 00:58z 

Hi Ben,

I am starting to get just a little frustrated now, this is my third attempt to send a reply to you, but they keep evaporating from the system, apparently not being sent and yet not available to edit whilst the main window says there are still messages waiting to be sent.

The installation has definitely gone astray. The first installation (3.0.3.5 Beta 2) was in c:\vpc. As advised by Mike, I pointed the installer to the same folder. A number of files in that folder have been updated by the installation, but not vpcolr.exe. There are two failures that I can spot in the install log file,

1) Version: Following file not copied.
File Overwrite: C:\VPC\VPCOLR.exe

2) Could not Self-Register: C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM\VSPELL32.DLL

Install.log now shows both attempts to install RC1, with the same failures in each.

I've searched the whole drive, and can say fairly certainly that it's not installed the RC1 anywhere else.

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4. "RE: OLR Update Fails"
05-01-02, 01:04z 

Hi Alan:

It sounds like the install may not overwrite existing files. You might try Vic's suggestion. Until Tom can jump in here with perhaps some insights, I'm at a loss to suggest anything else.


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2. "RE: OLR Update Fails"
05-01-02, 00:38z 

Alan -

Since the beta version will expire 5/1 - delete it and try the install again and see if it puts the fresh copy in the old folder.

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5. "RE: OLR Update Fails"
05-01-02, 01:18z 

Hi Vic,

Could you clarify that a little, please.

Do you mean uninstall the beta and then install RC1 WITHOUT the beta, or uninstall and reinstall both?

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6. "RE: OLR Update Fails"
05-01-02, 01:40z 

Hi Vic and Ben

I deleted (actually renamed) the file VPCOLR.EXE, and ran the new installer again. Looks like that did the trick.

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7. "RE: OLR Update Fails"
05-01-02, 04:39z 

Hi Alan:

> I deleted (actually renamed) the file VPCOLR.EXE, and ran the new
> installer again. Looks like that did the trick.

That's good news. I'll have to ask Tom whether the install will overwrite existing files. One thought that did come to mind is no installer can overwrite a file if it's being used/run. Did you happen to have the OLR running when you were trying to install the new version? If so, that would explain the error. If not, more research will need to be done.


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9. "RE: OLR Update Fails"
05-01-02, 16:18z 

Ben -

> That's good news. I'll have to ask Tom whether the install will
> overwrite existing files. One thought that did come to mind is no
> installer can overwrite a file if it's being used/run. Did you happen to
> have the OLR running when you were trying to install the new version? If
> so, that would explain the error. If not, more research will need to be
> done.

I'm willing to bet that the installer checks the version number for the install and won't install V 1 when V 3 is present.

I'm sure Tom can fix it when he returns,

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11. "RE: OLR Update Fails"
05-02-02, 00:30z 

Hi Ben,

> One thought that did come to mind is no
> installer can overwrite a file if it's being used/run. Did you happen to
> have the OLR running when you were trying to install the new version? If
> so, that would explain the error. If not, more research will need to be
> done.

No, I made certain on each occasion that the OLR was not running, though I forgot to shut down the anti virus stuff first time round. I suspect Pete hit the nail on the head with his version number theory - several other files were successfully overwritten.

Even though the installations failed, the installer claimed successful completion.

I do still have one error message in the install.log file
Could not Self-Register: C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM\VSPELL32.DLL

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12. "RE: OLR Update Fails"
05-02-02, 00:55z 

> I do still have one error message in the install.log file
> Could not Self-Register: C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM\VSPELL32.DLL

That may be because the file was never unregistered (you would have had to have done that manually). Regardless, I'll pass the info on to Tom.

Thanks for the report!

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14. "RE: OLR Update Fails"
05-04-02, 19:30z 

Hi Ben,

> > I deleted (actually renamed) the file VPCOLR.EXE, and
> > ran the new installer again. Looks like that did the
> > trick.
>
> That's good news. I'll have to ask Tom whether the install
> will overwrite existing files. One thought that did come
> to mind is no installer can overwrite a file if it's being
> used/run. Did you happen to have the OLR running when you
> were trying to install the new version? If so, that would
> explain the error. If not, more research will need to be
> done.

I noticed that nobody except you is using the correct new
version of OLR.PL. This might be due to only moving
vpcolr.exe from one installation directory to an older one.
Wouldn't it be better to remove the old installation and
use the one in the new directory? Please investigate.

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15. "RE: OLR Update Fails"
05-04-02, 20:34z 

Hi Guido:

> I noticed that nobody except you is using the correct new
> version of OLR.PL. This might be due to only moving
> vpcolr.exe from one installation directory to an older one.
> Wouldn't it be better to remove the old installation and
> use the one in the new directory? Please investigate.

Tom wasn't able to get to the other installs before he left for SJC. We also have version 1.1 of the OLR ready for Tom when he gets back.


If anyone is comfortable with manually installing the latest OLR.PL, you can get it here:

http://www.flightadventures.com/misc/files/olr-1.76.zip

To manually install:

Exit the OLR, unzip the file, and replace olr.pl in the c:/perl/bin folder.

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8. "RE: OLR Update Fails"
05-01-02, 14:12z 

Hi Alan

>> I've run the new OLR installer twice since receiving it early this
morning. On both occasions, it's failed to overwrite the previous exe
file, and left me with 3.0.3.5 beta 2 <<

I had exactly the same problem. In the end I ran the installation exe file and installed to a different folder, compared what files were different between the two and realised, as you later did, that the existing file vpcolr.exe was not being overwritten. I simply copied it across to my c:\vpc folder and overwrote the old one and that fixed it.

Ben, if you're reading this, FWIW I definitely did *not* have the vpcolr.exe file running when I ran the installer so something's amiss here with the installation program.

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10. "RE: OLR Update Fails"
05-01-02, 18:56z 

Hi Paul:

> Ben, if you're reading this, FWIW I definitely did *not* have the
> vpcolr.exe file running when I ran the installer so something's amiss
> here with the installation program.

Thanks for the feedback. Tom's on his way to SJC for a week, but I'm sure Greenie can fill him in when they meet we'll be able to get an answer or we'll just have to wait until he returns.


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BTW, did you get a registration key for this? Just FYI, to enter the registration code for the OLR, select Help: Register. Enter the information exactly as indicated in the key and you'll be all set.

Hope this helps!

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13. "RE: OLR Update Fails"
05-02-02, 17:40z 

Hi Paul,

> I had exactly the same problem.

That's good to hear (in the sense that I'm not alone and doing something totally stupid)

> In the end I ran the installation exe
> file and installed to a different folder, compared what files were
> different between the two and realised, as you later did, that the
> existing file vpcolr.exe was not being overwritten. I simply copied it
> across to my c:\vpc folder and overwrote the old one and that fixed it.

Because Mike had said to direct the installer to the same folder as the previous version, I assumed it would not install anywhere else, so didn't think to try that. I might have saved myself some time - fairly obvious idea really! Still, all's well that ends well.

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