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"Test Bank 1 errors"
11-17-01, 18:10z 

Ben -

I took the demo test and noticed that no matter what answer I put in items 22 - 26 - they were flagged as incorrect. You might want to take a look. BTW, is there a demo test relating to Airspace? Didn't see one.

Thanx,

Vic

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  Subject      Author      Message Date     ID   
  RE: Test Bank 1 errors Ben Chiu[Admin] 11-17-01 1
   RE: Test Bank 1 errors vgbaron[Sysop] 11-17-01 2
        RE: Test Bank 1 errors Ben Chiu[Admin] 11-18-01 3
             RE: Test Bank 1 errors jerryrosie[Sysop] 11-18-01 4
                  RE: Test Bank 1 errors Ben Chiu[Admin] 11-18-01 5
                       RE: Test Bank 1 errors jerryrosie[Sysop] 11-19-01 6
                            RE: Test Bank 1 errors Ben Chiu[Admin] 11-19-01 7
                            RE: Test Bank 1 errors Ben Chiu[Admin] 11-20-01 12
                                 RE: Test Bank 1 errors jerryrosie[Sysop] 11-20-01 14
                                      RE: Test Bank 1 errors Ben Chiu[Admin] 11-20-01 15
                                           RE: Test Bank 1 errors Mike_Greenwood[Admin] 11-21-01 16
                                                RE: Test Bank 1 errors jerryrosie[Sysop] 11-21-01 18
                                           RE: Test Bank 1 errors jerryrosie[Sysop] 11-21-01 17
                                           RE: Test Bank 1 errors jerryrosie[Sysop] 11-21-01 20
                                                RE: Test Bank 1 errors Ben Chiu[Admin] 11-21-01 21
             RE: Test Bank 1 errors vgbaron[Sysop] 11-19-01 8
                  RE: Test Bank 1 errors Ben Chiu[Admin] 11-20-01 9
                  RE: Test Bank 1 errors Ben Chiu[Admin] 11-20-01 10
                       RE: Test Bank 1 errors vgbaron[Sysop] 11-20-01 11
                            RE: Test Bank 1 errors Ben Chiu[Admin] 11-20-01 13
                                 RE: Test Bank 1 errors vgbaron[Sysop] 11-21-01 19
                                      RE: Test Bank 1 errors Ben Chiu[Admin] 11-21-01 22
                                           RE: Test Bank 1 errors vgbaron[Sysop] 11-22-01 23
                                                RE: Test Bank 1 errors Ben Chiu[Admin] 11-27-01 24

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1. "RE: Test Bank 1 errors"
11-17-01, 20:57z 

Greetings Vic:

>I took the demo test and noticed that no matter what
>answer I put in items 22 - 26 - they were flagged as
>incorrect. You might want to take a look.

Ack! It seems our test has been corrupted somehow. I've repaired those questions and added one of the missing ones off the top of my head. There are still a couple missing. Will add those back in later tonight.


>BTW, is there a
>demo test relating to Airspace? Didn't see one.

It's not up yet. I'll put it up tonight too.

Thanks for the heads up.
Ben

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2. "RE: Test Bank 1 errors"
11-17-01, 22:33z 

My pleasure,

Vic

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3. "RE: Test Bank 1 errors"
11-18-01, 04:07z 

Greetings again, Vic:

Most of the airspace questions are up. I'll post the rest when I get a good copies of the required chart to post.

Thanks!
Ben

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4. "RE: Test Bank 1 errors"
11-18-01, 13:40z 


Hi Ben,

I hate to be a PITA but, where do I find these test questions? I must be missing something.....

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5. "RE: Test Bank 1 errors"
11-18-01, 18:53z 

>
>Hi Ben,
>
>I hate to be a PITA but, where do I find these test
>questions? I must be missing something.....

Click the Test Center link from the main VPC menu.

Ben

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6. "RE: Test Bank 1 errors"
11-19-01, 15:23z 

>>
>>Hi Ben,
>>
>>I hate to be a PITA but, where do I find these test
>>questions? I must be missing something.....
>
>Click the Test Center link from the main VPC menu.
>
>Ben

And where might that be located? I haven't been able to find it as of this point in time. Is it, by any chance, in that list of things down under the 'window' showing the FBO? If so, for some reason, this list seems to be not interactive on my machine....<]:¬( And this time when I logged on, that list was just a gray blank - no words in it - just a gray panel....


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7. "RE: Test Bank 1 errors"
11-19-01, 17:19z 

Greetings Jerry:

>And where might that be located? I haven't been able to
>find it as of this point in time. Is it, by any chance,
>in that list of things down under the 'window' showing the
>FBO? If so, for some reason, this list seems to be not
>interactive on my machine....<]:¬( And this time when I
>logged on, that list was just a gray blank - no words in
>it - just a gray panel....

The main VPC page should look like this:


http://www.flightadventures.com/misc/VPC_example.jpg

If you don't see the menu at the bottom of the page, I'd venture to guess that you have some corrupted IE files. Because there are too many possibilities to cover when trying to fix IE, my general suggestion in these cases is to just go ahead and reinstall IE. *Most* of the time, this will fix most errors. However, I should also tell you that on a couple of occasions the only way I was able to completely fix IE (after a virus made havoc with things) was to reinstall Windows again and go through IE updates one by one.

Hope this helps.
Ben

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12. "RE: Test Bank 1 errors"
11-20-01, 03:34z 

Hi Jerry:

I was talking with Tom just now and we were wondering if you see the UTC Clock on the back wall of the main VPC page?
One thought Tom had was that you may have Java scripting disabled in IE. That would explain why you don't see the menu and why you probably haven't seen the other cool features we have here. However, if you see the clock and don't see the menu, then something is amiss.

Ben

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14. "RE: Test Bank 1 errors"
11-20-01, 15:20z 

Yep - I see the clock and after a "refresh" I can see the menu but it does not appear to be interactive. The only way I can get to another page is by clicking on the "Hot Spots" in the graphic - the couch for "lounge", the file cabinet for "download files", etc. I can access most of what is offered this way but I can't seem to find a hot spot for ACARS or for the Testing program that started all this.

Is the Menu supposed to be interactive?

If so, it looks like I need to do more work on getting IE properly installed on my machine :-(

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15. "RE: Test Bank 1 errors"
11-20-01, 18:35z 

>cabinet for "download files", etc. I can access most of
>what is offered this way but I can't seem to find a hot
>spot for ACARS or for the Testing program that started all
>this.

There aren't any hot spots on the screen for ACARS, Ground School, Safety Program, Search, and Test Center. It appears that you're missing quite a bit of the VPC still.

Is anyone else having problems with the lower menu?


>Is the Menu supposed to be interactive?

Absolutely. The buttons should change color when your mouse points at them too.


>If so, it looks like I need to do more work on getting IE
>properly installed on my machine :-(

You might just have a Java problem. I'd try cleaning out IE's temp files. You also might try renaming your Java folder to see if the packages there are corrupted too.

Ben

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16. "RE: Test Bank 1 errors"
11-21-01, 03:23z 

>>Is anyone else having problems with the lower menu?<<

Nope, not here. Jerry is TRULY missing out on alot at the VPC. It's not an XP thing either since he's not running it (are you Jer?). Let's get this sorted out ASAP.


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18. "RE: Test Bank 1 errors"
11-21-01, 14:58z 


Nope - not running XP yet - need to add some more memory to meet its minimums....I've asked Santa and he says maybe <]:¬)

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17. "RE: Test Bank 1 errors"
11-21-01, 14:56z 

I'll definitely have to get this squared away since the things I'm not seeing are some of the things that have my greatest interest. I was waiting for these things to be "activated" and only now found out that the only thing not activated was me :-). Back to the drawing board... will advise as soon as I have this squared away...

Thanks...

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20. "RE: Test Bank 1 errors"
11-21-01, 19:41z 

****ALL RIGHT!!****

After a reinstall of IE 5.5 and a downlaod of Service pack 2 and an installation of a whole bunch of windows update stuff - I can now access all the stuff in the Menu Area!!

Just took two of the tests and had a ball!! Can't wait to try some of the rest of what I've been missing.

Sorry I missed the chat conference last night but had to go to a meeting and got home really late...and was dead tired. Hope things went well and you had a good turnout!

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21. "RE: Test Bank 1 errors"
11-21-01, 19:48z 

>After a reinstall of IE 5.5 and a downlaod of Service pack
>2 and an installation of a whole bunch of windows update
>stuff - I can now access all the stuff in the Menu Area!!

Fantastic! I suppose another "Welcome to the VPC!" is in order! :)


>Sorry I missed the chat conference last night but had to
>go to a meeting and got home really late...and was dead
>tired. Hope things went well and you had a good turnout!

That's ok, we're going to have to try it again. Most of the regulars were there (even then, we were a bit light), however, Vic showed (his first chat) and a good time was had by all, but it wasn't much of a "stress test".


Ben

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8. "RE: Test Bank 1 errors"
11-19-01, 23:01z 

Ben -

Thanx, I got them. BTW, I have a copy of the real chart - much easier to deal with ;-).

Another thing - I tried to take a demo of the Radio Test to see how I'd do and when I clicked to score the test I got a msg saying N/A had already completed the test and it couldn't be taken twice. I'm positive I hadn't taken the test - I tried using my name and also as demo. Just FYI.

Vic

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9. "RE: Test Bank 1 errors"
11-20-01, 00:31z 

Hi Vic:

>Thanx, I got them. BTW, I have a copy of the real chart -
>much easier to deal with ;-).

Yea, we're looking for a util that'll allow users to zoom in and out, or perhaps we'll crop the chart down for each required area for that question. The charts are still a work in progress...


>Another thing - I tried to take a demo of the Radio Test
>to see how I'd do and when I clicked to score the test I
>got a msg saying N/A had already completed the test and it
>couldn't be taken twice. I'm positive I hadn't taken the
>test - I tried using my name and also as demo. Just FYI.

Thanks for the update. I may have toggled the retake feature off when I was mucking around in there. I'll check it. Thanks!

Ben

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10. "RE: Test Bank 1 errors"
11-20-01, 00:40z 

Greetings again, Vic:

Yep, I toggled the retake feature off. Sorry.

Thanks for the bug reports. We'll get it right eventually. :)

Ben

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11. "RE: Test Bank 1 errors"
11-20-01, 03:10z 


>
>Thanks for the bug reports. We'll get it right eventually.
>:)
>

Of that I have no doubt!

Vic


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13. "RE: Test Bank 1 errors"
11-20-01, 06:41z 

>>Thanks for the bug reports. We'll get it right eventually.
>>:)
>>
>
>Of that I have no doubt!

Thanks once again for your confidence, Vic!

I've uploaded the new self-executable format for the charts (5 megs tho, ouch!). VPC Crew will now be able zoom in and out, and grab the chart to scroll it around. I think you'll find it much easier to use.

If you just want to have a gander at the chart, here's a link to Figure 26 http://www.flightadventures.com/misc/Figure_26.exe

Thanks again for your suggestions and bug hunting.

Ben

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19. "RE: Test Bank 1 errors"
11-21-01, 16:57z 

Ben -

Enjoyed my brief foray into the chat arena. Am installing RW.

Issues: The menu buttons work fine for me except they do not change color on mouseover.

I entered the test center to look at the new questions. Exited normally. A little bit later, tried to reenter the test center from the Main Menu - nothing happened. Exited IE5 and tried again - all is well.

Tried this several times and I couldn't reenter the TC in the same session without closing down ie5.

Maybe my system but thought you'd like to know.

Regards,

Vic

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22. "RE: Test Bank 1 errors"
11-21-01, 19:50z 

>Enjoyed my brief foray into the chat arena.

Thanks, Vic. The guys and I hope you're able to join us again. We meet every Tues and Thurs same time.


>Am installing RW.

Great! You'll find that we sometimes talk more than type. (Lazy I guess.) :)


>Issues: The menu buttons work fine for me except they do
>not change color on mouseover.
>
>I entered the test center to look at the new questions.
>Exited normally. A little bit later, tried to reenter the
>test center from the Main Menu - nothing happened. Exited
>IE5 and tried again - all is well.
>
>Tried this several times and I couldn't reenter the TC in
>the same session without closing down ie5.
>
>Maybe my system but thought you'd like to know.

Thanks for the bug report. What IE cache setting do you have enabled?


Ben

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23. "RE: Test Bank 1 errors"
11-22-01, 21:29z 

>Thanks, Vic. The guys and I hope you're able to join us
>again. We meet every Tues and Thurs same time.
>

I'll try to make it when I can. Especially if I can get RW working properly. So far, it is installed and I can record and playback.

>Thanks for the bug report. What IE cache setting do you
>have enabled?
>
I have my pages set to auto refresh, if that's what you mean. Have cache size set to low (10mb).

FWIW, the test center reentrancy is working fine today.
Still no color change on mouseover BUT the button depresses when clicked.

BTW, I use programs to blockj popup ads and have noticed that on the most sensitive settings they block the NOTAMS and other windows. Might be worth a mention to users in their setup.

TTYL,

Vic

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24. "RE: Test Bank 1 errors"
11-27-01, 04:23z 

>BTW, I use programs to blockj popup ads and have noticed
>that on the most sensitive settings they block the NOTAMS
>and other windows. Might be worth a mention to users in
>their setup.

Thanks for the tip, Vic. We'll add that to our troubleshooting repertoire. :)

Ben

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